Pe toate forumurile de afara au cate un thread pe care discuta posibile traduri, idei de traduri, jucatori pe picior de plecare,FA din vara urmatoare s.a.m.d deci am zis sa avem si noi unul....
pt cine vine cu idei de traduri incercati pe linkul asta http://www3.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/1/ sa verificati daca din punct de vedere al cap-space-ului tradul ar merge...si pe urma urmeaza discutiile.
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New Jersey Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
24.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.3 apg in 36.8 minutes
Incoming
Cuttino Mobley
6-4 SG from Rhode Island
14.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 37.7 minutes
Corey Maggette
6-6 SG from Duke
17.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 29.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: +8.4 ppg, +3.8 rpg, and +0.8 apg.
L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Cuttino Mobley
6-4 SG from Rhode Island
14.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 37.7 minutes
Corey Maggette
6-6 SG from Duke
17.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 29.6 minutes
Incoming
Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
24.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.3 apg in 36.8 minutes
Ce ziceti de asta?
Last edited by Irimus; 5th January 2007 at 21:14.
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Cica si Walker si Posey ar fii pe picior de plecare..ce credeti ca ar putea lua Miami pe ei? io nu vad cine ar avea nevoie de aia 2 desi ca prosti se gasesc tot timpul...
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nu-i vorba ca walker e si be cascaval mult....deci nu numai ca e batran si uzat, dar e si scumpicel
[SIZE="3"][B][I][COLOR="Red"]Oleeee Olaaaaa, DINAMO e viata mea....[/COLOR][/I][/B][/SIZE]
Maggette+Rebraca pt Mo Pete si Nesterovic? Ar iesi bine ambele echipe...mie asa mi se pare
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The Sixers have been working on a potential buyout of the remainder of Chris Webber's contract, according to a source.
Stiu ca e greu de dat..dar eu speram sa ia macar 2 bomboane pe el...acu ramane de vazut unde va ajunge daca buy-outul se va concretiza.Cred ca va fii bataie mare pe el.Sunt curios daca si Denver vor fii interesati...
Oricum e clar ca va ajunge la o echipa care se bate pt titlu iar cea mai mare nevoie ar aveao chiar Denver care nu are variante prea grozave pt pf...sigur nici Lakers nu sta grozav la capitolul big man si daca tinem cont ca echipa joaca bine si asa...aducerea lui C-Webb pe gratis ar puteao face pe Lakers dintr-o echipa foarte buna, o hai sa zicem semi-contender
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Miami?
"I think right now we are not capable of finding a way to win, or we are unable to, or don't know how to, or something,'' Carter said.
de fapt daca ma gandesc mai bine...nici la Nets nu i-ar sta rau....doar ideea de kidd+c-webb imi place...la care daca mai adaugi si 2 extreme ca vince si richjeff s-ar putea sa iasa ceva de calitate
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am auzit si eu de tradeul lui carter si sincer ar fi un trade excelent pentru NJ, dar nu prea vad pe LA sa il accepte, carter mai are 4 luni de contract si gata, ce rost are sa dea 2 jucatori buni pentru 4 luni, mai ales ca ei au deja contracte masive si cred ca ar intra serios in luxury cu carter. Singurul avantaj ar fi daca ar spera sa fie candidatzi la titlu cu carter, dar in momentul asta cred ca valoarea lui vince a cazut dramatic pe piatza fiindca e clar ca e genul de jucator care nu are motivatzia suficienta sa dea totul pe teren.
mo pete din cite am intzeles nu va pleca din toronto pina la vara cel mai devreme (cu sign and trade). Ziarishtii din toronto care mai au access la virf au dat de intzeles ca toronto ar fi dispusa doar la un schimb peterson contra magette fiindca magette are reputatzie gen carter, cam delasator si nu vor sa sacrifice prea mult pentru el. LA in mod sigur nu va accepta un transfer petersen + humphries sa zicem pentru corey, mai ales cind sunt nume ca si carter puse pe masa (chiar daca nu il vor neaparat pe carter ...).
tre sa dea mai mult decat Mo Pete pt maggetteOriginally Posted by cgrecu
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pai da, dar asta e chestia, ca nu sunt dispushi sa dea mai mult, asha ca slabe sanse sa iasa ceva in directzia asta.
pai sunt acum semi-contenderi....
acum depinde si ce intelegi prin asta....
O'Neal's frustration boils over
He is tired of Pacers playing like 'a very average team,' ponders his future
Forward Jermaine O'Neal spent about 20 minutes inside an empty locker room at the American Airlines Center late Thursday night venting about their 17-16 record.
"We're a very average team right now," O'Neal said. "We're going to be average until we decide as players that we want to win and do the right things we're supposed to do to win. If we don't do it, we're going to mingle around .500, get in the playoffs and then be out."
O'Neal's frustrations boiled over after the Pacers squandered an opportunity to end the Dallas Mavericks' 11-game winning streak Thursday. The Pacers played solid for the first three-plus quarters only to "self destruct" in the final few minutes.
The constant inconsistency has O'Neal thinking about his future with the Pacers. O'Neal, who is averaging a team-high 19.3 points, 10.6 rebounds and 3.2 blocks per game, reiterated his comments made to The Star last summer about playing with the team beyond this season.
"If I can't take this team to another level, I truthfully believe we should go our separate ways at the end of the season," said O'Neal, who added his first choice is to remain with the Pacers. "I'm saying in general, the bottom line is you play to win. If we don't have a system set to win a championship, if we don't have the crew to win a championship, then what are we doing?
"I'm getting to the point, I'm in my 11th year, I don't want to play 82 games and then exit to watch somebody else pop champagne. . . . I'm tired of that. I want to compete for a championship. If we can't do it, that's a whole (different) story."
When asked if he has taken his displeasure to CEO Donnie Walsh and team president Larry Bird, O'Neal said, "It's in the best interest of my team and the city not to comment about that. The bottom line is we win and lose as a team and everybody is responsible for it. The coaching staff all the way down to the players."
Walsh, making one of his few road appearances, said he understands O'Neal's frustration.
"I think he's played really well and if the time comes for (talking about O'Neal's future), then that will be the time. We'll see," Walsh said. "I don't like to respond to comments after a tough loss like that. We're going through a difficult part of the season. I'm frustrated, the coaches are frustrated on occasion and the team is frustrated."
The Pacers, who overhauled their roster last summer, have beaten Detroit and Orlando, two of the top teams in the Eastern Conference, twice each this season. It's losses to Boston, Toronto, Seattle and Charlotte that have stopped any talk of them being an elite team in the East.
Tonight, they are at Oklahoma City.
The Pacers' longest losing streak is only three games. They have failed seven times to win three straight games.
"We've proven we can go out and beat the best teams in the East. We've also gone out and proven we can lose to the worst teams in the East," O'Neal said. "What's the solution? I don't know what the solution is. It's frustrating."
The Pacers' rotation has been just as inconsistent as their play on the court. Players are uncertain of their roles on the team. Talk about players having their own personal agenda has started to circulate around the locker room.
"Before the season started, we met with each one of our players and told them what is to be expected of each one of them," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said. "We coach them and try to do better. We don't always play great. The thing I'm encouraged about is our effort has been really good. We just have to cut down on mistakes."
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Phil Jackson (June 17th, 2009):"What was our model of this team? The Ring, the ring, that was the model. Its not just this band of gold, its the circle that's made a bond between all of these players, a great love for one another, its a great feeling."
din cite shtiu eu el are vreo 22 de milioane contract si cit e o'neal de bun, nu cred ca se inghesuie nimeni la el, cel putzin nu atita timp cit exista o sansa sa il iei pe garnett la acceashi bani.
anul trecut au fost nishte zvonuri ca l-ar fi oferit la schimb cu bosh si toronto a refuzat (evident ...)
eh...nu e vorba numai de salar...nu poti sa-l iei pe kg cu aceleasi piese cu care il iei pe JO...e mai scump Kg oricum
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Deci...se pare ca si Jo ar cam vrea sa o intinda...ce credeti ca ar putea sa ia Indiana pe el?
eu m-am gandit la astea:
Portland ofera Zach Randolph+Magloire+2round pick
New Jersey ar putea sa-l ofere la schimb pe Carter (Kidd isi doreste de mult un big man de valoare)
Chicago are nenumarate variante dar ma gandesc la PJ(expira)+Noce+pickul lui NY
un swap cu Gasol+filler (pt contract)?
Acuma ramane de vazut daca Indiana vrea sa reconstruiasca sau vrea sa ia ceva cat de cat bun si experimentat pt a ramane echipa de 50%.Oricum in locul lor daca tot il dua JO as incerca sa scap si de Tinsley/Jackson
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slabe sanse ca indiana sa il ia pe zach, nu dupa ce au avut atitea probleme cu artest, jackson samd. Daca Indiana se decid sa il dea pe oneal in mod sigur intra in rebuilding mode, vor vrea draft picks. Chicago e in aceeashi divizie chestie care pune probleme in trades, NJ ar fi o varianta pentru ca vince are expiring contract masiv ceea ce le-ar da multa flexibilitate. Gasol din cite am intzeles nu e de vinzare si oricum nu cred ca oneal ar vrea mearga la ultima clasata tinind cont ca se plinga ca vrea la contenders ...
Bun threadul asta, n-am intrat pe el ca ma zgaraie titlul la urechi (Raptore, nu poti sa il corectezi?("trade-uri").
Ideea e ca Pacers raman fara cel mai bun jucator si singurul care arata ca si cum i-ar pasa de ce se intampla. De acolo trebuie sa plece Jackson (care sper sa fie condamnat pentru shooting incident) si Tinsley, dar amandoi au super-contracte pana prin 2012 sau asa...Sunt convins ca Walsh a incercat inca din vara sa scape de ei dar nu i-a luat nimeni. In general Walsh este foarte discret, de aia e naspa pentru el cand jucatorii fug la ziare si cer trade in loc sa ii spuna lui. Deci daca nu am auzit variante de schimb nu inseamna ca nu a incercat.
Asadar daca pleaca O'Neal si raman Tinsley si Jackson, pai viitorul echipei e pecetluit pentru 5-6 de-acum inainte. Schimbul cu KG este ilogic, amandoi vor sa plece la echipe care sa traga la titlu, schimbandu-i intre ei e ilogic. Pick-uri...dau randament in 3-4-5 ani (poate Oden sa produca in primul an)...asadar situatia este foarte naspa...Pana la urma cel mai bine cred ca ar fi (paradoxal) schimbul cu Chicago...Bulls ar avea in sfarsit low post presents iar Pacers il iau pe Norcioni (un fel de Foster ca efort si inima, dar mult mai bun ofensiv) plus pick-ul lui Knicks (care va fi de loterie, cat de sus vom vedea). Daca il pun si pe Jackson si il iau pe Ben Gordon eu zic ca e no brainer, dar nu am verificat salariile.
"Este mai bine sa taci si sa dai impresia ca esti prost decat sa vorbesti si sa inlaturi orice dubiu."
"Sources on the Fan590 mentioned Philadelphia maybe moving Dalembert, Carney , and Ollie to Atlanta for Shelden Wiliams, Pachula, and Childress"
ar fii prea frumos sa se realizeze asa ceva.
btw raptore..corecteaza nume threadului sa nu mai zgarie lumea la urechi
in legatura cu JO...ar merge oare Kaman+Maggete pt JO?
si JO sa inceapa ca C la Lac
lumea se cam fereste de pickul lui NY pt ca desi la prima vedere pare tentant...e cam dubash in sensu ca nu e mare branza ca NY sa castige titanicul si automat s-a dus loteria
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macar la 3 puncte mai stiu sa arunce. sa nu uitaam de meciul pe care miami l-a castigat la memphis prin cosul lui posey din ultima secunda.
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NY nu are pick anul asta daca e in loterie ... Cit despre trade-ul cu atlanta, probabil ca glumeshti, childress si shelden sunt tineri si de perspectiva, pentru cei 3 probabil l-ar fi putut lua pe iverson. Dalembert e maritat cu philadelphia, are un contract masiv si productivitate minima ...
1. dooooh. e vb de dreptul lui bulls de swap cu NY. la asta se refera lumea cind zice "NY pick". pt ca la cum merg lucrurile, fie ca NY prind sau nu playoff-ul, bulls vor avea mai multe W, deci isi vor exercita dreptul de swap. ca atare pick-ul lui knicks 99.999999% ajunge la bulls. care ar putea sa fol pick-ul intr-unde posibil trade pt kg/jo/gasol
2. cu childress si shelden nu il iei nici pe iguodala, nici vorba de iverson. trade-ul zaza, childress, shelden pe dalember, ollie si carney ar fi f bun pt sixers
3. irimus, Kaman+Maggete pt JO ar insemna ca clippers sa aiba 2 PF cu cotracte masive. JO nu e valabil ca C. e o aiureala. in plus, ca valoare, JO > kaman + maggette. sa nu mai zic ca trade-ul ar insemna ca clippers sa aiba 2 contracte masive, iar in dictionar, linga cuvintul "zgircit" e poza lui sterlling, ownerul lui clippers.
4. carter NU e FA la finalul sezonului, ci care optiune. daca nu si-o exercita, va avea salariu de fo 16 mil. acum poate cineva sa imi spuna ca crede sincer ca la cum a jucat carter anu asta ii da cineva mai mult de 16 mil in vara ? nu cred. asa ca cel mai probabil carter va mai juca la nets si la anu daca nu e traded.
5. Zach Randolph+Magloire+2round pick pe JO iar nu e ok pt indiana. zach nu are reputatie prea buna. zach + jax + tins ... ai jailpacers.
6. cred ca indiana ar face un trade JO pe kirk + noce (daca ar avea incredere ca ramine la ei pt ca in vara e UFA) + pick top 3 protected sau future 1st round pick.
Now this, my friend, is gonna be fun
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