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    Curios:
    Westbrook/Livingston
    Harden/Thabo/Weaver
    Durant / Green?
    Green/ Ibaka / DJ White / Collison
    Krisic / Thomas / Mullens

    Asta inseamna ca Green nu o sa mai fie starter la PF ? si va fi 6th man ... behind Durant
    Nu stiu daca fac fata DJ White si Ibaka la PF position. Cu Odom ON ... intrau in playoffs !
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    Quote Originally Posted by obye View Post
    Curios:
    Westbrook/Livingston
    Harden/Thabo/Weaver
    Durant / Green?
    Green/ Ibaka / DJ White / Collison
    Krisic / Thomas / Mullens

    Asta inseamna ca Green nu o sa mai fie starter la PF ? si va fi 6th man ... behind Durant
    Nu stiu daca fac fata DJ White si Ibaka la PF position. Cu Odom ON ... intrau in playoffs !
    o sa fie desigur starter green....si o sa prinda si vreo 7-8 min la SF pentru ca il vad pe durant la 41-42 minute pe meci sez viitor
    intrebarea e la SG ,din cate am inteles nu e inca 100% sigur titularizarea lui harden in fata lui thabo...s-ar putea sa se intample scenariul lui westbrook de anul trecut cand a inceput sezonul off the bench si dupaia usor usor i-a luat locul lui watson ca titular
    oricum ,sunt sanse la playoff iar aceasta echipa a lui thunder dupa parerea ea are mai mult potential si talent ca o alta echipa de tineri ,portland trailblazers(peste 2 -3 ani deja o va depasi in clasament)

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    Thabo poate sa fie si backup-ul lui Durant. Si Weaver la Harden.
    Dar la PF e aglomeratie mare!
    Eu cred ca Collison pleaca !
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    wait !!!!
    nu au mavs deja un PF that can't play defense but is already much better on offense?

    impresia mea e ca mavs nu fac decit sa bata pasul pe loc. l-au overpaid pe kidd si l-au adus pe marion, dar l-au ratat pe gortat si l-au pierdut pe bass. tot interior D-ul lor e in miinile lui dampier. ughhhh.
    Tim Thomas close to signing with Dallas.

    Problem solved.

    On a serious note, Okafor pt Chandler straight up?
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    yeah, tim thomas la mavs...1 year , veteran's minimum
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    Eu zic ca sunt mai castigati Hornets prin Okafor , gandindu-ma numai la varsta + ca Chandler este injury prone !(d-aia nu s-a finalizat nici transferul lui la OKC)!
    Daca ne uitam la STATS chiar devine dubioasa treaba , trebuie sa fie ceva la mijloc! ( o sa mai fie un swap ceva )
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    stii ca e diferenta de 6 zile intre ei, nu?

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    da stiu ... dar gandestete ca Tyson e deja "rupt"!
    I'dd pick Emeka any day! Chandler are avantajul inaltimii , 3' peste Okafor , dar daca te gandesti ca Bobcats au fost 27th offensive team , nu cred ca Chandler era solutia! E un swap tampit si inutil , parca Bobcats trebuia sa "get stronger offensively" !
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    Nu e un swap tampit si inutil, e un swap financiar avantajos pentru Bobcats.

    Iar in ziua de azi cel financial avantajos e, pentru unii owneri, o solutie.
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    Si Okafor a avut probleme cu accidentarile (in 2006 a jucat doar 26 de meciuri din tot sezonul), totusi astia de la Bobcats sunt absolut retarzi. New Orleans a tot incercat sa scape de Chandler de anul trecut pentru Wilcox si Joe Smith de la Thunder, iar anul asta era un zvon de un trade Chandler - Wallace. Acuma e clar ca Hornets nu au de gand sa-l scape pe Paul.

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    Cu toate astea acest trade nu schimba nimic ...
    Hornets si Bobcats tot nu sunt echipe de playoff !
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    Quote Originally Posted by obye View Post
    da stiu ... dar gandestete ca Tyson e deja "rupt"!
    I'dd pick Emeka any day! Chandler are avantajul inaltimii , 3' peste Okafor , dar daca te gandesti ca Bobcats au fost 27th offensive team , nu cred ca Chandler era solutia! E un swap tampit si inutil , parca Bobcats trebuia sa "get stronger offensively" !
    nu, nu stiai:
    Quote Originally Posted by obye View Post
    Eu zic ca sunt mai castigati Hornets prin Okafor , gandindu-ma numai la varsta
    e curios ca hornets au facut trade-ul asta, deoarece ei vroiau sa scape de salarii. bine ca au economisit 2,6mil anu asta, dar durata contractului e mult mai mare
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMJames View Post
    stii ca e diferenta de 6 zile intre ei, nu?
    stie pe naiba.
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    OK ... i didn`t know ..but still .. Look at the stats !
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    da da. vazuram/stim stats-urile. intrebarea mea este: cine credeai ca e mai in varsta?

    si legat de subiect: eu intotdeauna am sperat ca okafor sa faca pasul inainte regarding his career. poate si pt ca stiu ca a lucrat hakeem cu el iar numele lui are iz nigerian...habar n-am! stiu doar ca I rooted for him. sper sa ii priasca mutarea...cu niste agresivitate/rautate in joc ar putea sa take it to the next level.
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    de acord cu tine ... dar la Hornets ?
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    Pai la Hornets e Chris Paul, printre cei mai buni PG ai ligii (poate cel mai bun) deci e clar un upgrade peste Bobcats. Si nu jucatorii implicati in trade isi hotarasc soarta (mai sunt si exceptii).

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    Ma fratilor voi nu pricepeti ca trade-ul e facut doar din perspectiva financiara?

    Au stats asemanatoare (Okafor chiar mai bune) DAR:

    Chandler mai are 2 ani la 11 mil iar Okafor mai are 5 ani de contract la 10-14 mil $. Pentru unii owneri conteaza mai putin daca castiga echipa bla bla bla. Asta se intampla in cazul Charlotte. Plus ca Larry Brown se pare ca mereu chestiona pasiunea lui Okafor pentru baschet...
    "I think right now we are not capable of finding a way to win, or we are unable to, or don't know how to, or something,'' Carter said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    Ma fratilor voi nu pricepeti ca trade-ul e facut doar din perspectiva financiara?

    Au stats asemanatoare (Okafor chiar mai bune) DAR:

    Chandler mai are 2 ani la 11 mil iar Okafor mai are 5 ani de contract la 10-14 mil $. Pentru unii owneri conteaza mai putin daca castiga echipa bla bla bla. Asta se intampla in cazul Charlotte. Plus ca Larry Brown se pare ca mereu chestiona pasiunea lui Okafor pentru baschet...
    tu ai dreptate, dar nu cred ca ai explicat prea bine.
    chandler are mai putini ani ramasi, pe cind okafor are mai multi dar pe mom are sal mai mic.

    asta inseamna ca hornets, chiar daca ramin cu contractul de 5 ani al lui okafor pe cap, pe moment economisesc 2 mil (1 din sal, 1 din lux tax) + ce vor mai primi in plus daca reusesc sa intre sub lux tax pina la finalul sezonului. pt ca banii platiti de echipele aflate peste lux tax se impart intre ceilalti owners.

    si vor fi ceva echipe peste lux tax. lux tax threshold pe anul asta e $69.92 million. echipe peste:
    boston cu vreo 10 mil
    cavs cu 10 mil (daca fol MLE si mai mult)
    knicks cu 4 mil (inainte sa-i plateasca pe lee si robinson)
    miami cu vreo 2 mil
    magic cu vreo 10 mil
    wizards cu 6 mil
    dallas lejer cu 15-20 mil
    houston cu vreo 3 mil
    hornets cu 7 mil (dupa ce l-au dat pe chandler)
    spurs cu 9 mil
    denver cu 7 mil
    utah cu 15 mil
    lakers cu 15 mil
    (pina sa fac lista nici nu mi-am dat seama cite echipe platesc lux tax)

    asta inseamna 118 mil in total platiti pt luxury tax
    daca mai adaugi cel putin 6 mil de la odom (care sigur va semna pe cel putin 6 mil si sigur cu o echipa deja peste taxa) inseamna 124 mil.
    din ce se va mai plati pe alti FA cel mai probabil ca suma va ajunge pe la 130-140 mil.

    sunt 13 echipe care platesc, deci restul de 17 impart suma asta.
    nu sunt sigur ca se imparte egal, dar daca e asa atunci inseamna aprox 8 mil/echipa.

    cred ca Uncle Jerry (Reinsdorf) deja saliveaza la gindul celor 8 mil extra de profit. playoffs ? titles ? fuck'em. gimme the 8 mil.
    Now this, my friend, is gonna be fun

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    Da, clar, mai ales ca Chandler e oarecum echivalent in ceea ce face cu Okafor...
    "I think right now we are not capable of finding a way to win, or we are unable to, or don't know how to, or something,'' Carter said.

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    The summer makeover of the Toronto Raptors continues. The National Basketball Association team on Wednesday night traded veteran forward Devean George to the Golden State Warriors for Italian swingman Marco Belinelli.
    So SG - DeRozan si Belinelli
    The Atlanta Hawks and restricted free-agent forward Marvin Williams(notes) reached an agreement on an undisclosed contract on Wednesday, a source told Yahoo! Sports.
    The New Orleans Hornets have signed free agent power forward Ike Diogu. Terms of the deal were not announced.
    - backup pt West

    Au mai ramas in carti :
    Boozer - Rip (trebuie traded ca a venit BG) - Felton (inca nu a semnat) -Odom (MIA sau LAL) - Tinsley (mi-ar placea la MIA) - Marbury - AI -Warrick (Chris Mannix zice ca are sanse sa ajunga la Bucks ) -Powe si Davis
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