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    Irimus, orice ai face, nu continua discutia asta.
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    Q: e posibil ?
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=nwccha
    Deci Jaric+Darko+2nd pick - Amare + 14pick ?
    PHX : ar avea un SG in Jaric si ar putea sa il mute SF pe Hill + Rubio
    Memphis - Mike C-OJ-Gay-Amare-Gasol

    ????
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    Ar fi penibili Suns sa faca un trade ca asta. Doar daca nu cumva vor sa scape de singurul all-star tanar pe care-l au.
    "Brian Scalabrine looks like Will Ferrell in Semi-Pro" (Jeff Van Gundy)
    [I][SIZE="1"]Smith asks Chauncey why he only shot six times, and Chauncey tells him, "I read the game. I don't play for stats. I don't play for none of that no more. I play for the win." Smith's reaction: "Damn. Makes sense."[/SIZE][/I]

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    Nets = 'tards

    The Nets are "said to be willing to part with point guard Devin Harris" to land the second overall pick in next Thursday's NBA Draft.
    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...for_2nd_pick/#
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    Quote Originally Posted by phyxius View Post
    poate vad un PG cu potential mai mare decat Harris. RR sa fie ala?
    sunt foarte hotarati sa-l aduca pe James in 2010. Sacrifica totul pentru asta. Stii cum se spune, risti si castigi
    dar ce se intampla daca RR va fi un BUST?

    si apoi sa mearga Harris la Grizz?...nasol
    Harris, OJ si Gay nu ar merge prea bine impreuna.
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    Quote Originally Posted by real23 View Post
    Ar fi penibili Suns sa faca un trade ca asta. Doar daca nu cumva vor sa scape de singurul all-star tanar pe care-l au.
    1. sarver e in full cost cutting mode

    2. amare vrea max si vrea sa fie the man. nu vei lua niciodata un titlu atita timp cit your superstar big man doesn't play D. si prin asta inteleg team D, help D, rotations & all that shit, nu doar ocazional cite un capac spectaculos

    imo si dpdv financiar si dpdv basketball-istic nu merita tinut amare. insa atita timp cit rupi echipa si o iei de la zero, macar sa nu-l dai pe peanuts.

    nu pot sa zic ca sunt fan al jefferson, pt ca mi se pare zach randolph 2 (scoring, rebounds, zero defense), dar daca reuseau sa-l ia pe jefferson pt amare mi se parea oricum mai bine, pt ca jefferson nu pare asa ego-maniac. nu e nici el vreun altruist in joc, insa pina acum nu l-am auzit plingindu-se ca vrea sa fie the man etc

    Quote Originally Posted by phyxius View Post
    again, gindeste-te la ceiling-ul jucatorului pe care il dai. pt amare deja il vezi. loc de crescut nu prea mai are. ar avea on D, dar nu pare genul care brusc sa aiba o revelatie si sa inceapa sa joace D.

    pt harris, iarasi cred ca ai cam vazut ceiling-ul. ok, poate mai poate creste un pic, dar nu prea mult. e un shoot first (and 2nd and 3rtd) pg, care nu-i face mai buni pe cei din jur si a carui singura forma de aparare e un flopping atit de penibil ca nivelul lui de "acting" ar fi considerat prea prost pina si pt filmele porno.

    problema e ca de multe ori GMs (si fanii) don't know when to let go. am vazut asta cu deng - a avut 2 sezoane in care a crescut multicel si cum inca avea 19-20 de ani, fanii bulls probabil se asteptau sa creasca cam cu aceeasi rata pina pe la 27-28 cind intra in his prime. de la momentul ala incoace eu am tot zis ca mai mult de atit nu poate si ar trebui dat cit e considerat "cu potential". ce au facut bulls ? l-au tinut si ii dau 13 mil/sezon ca sa observe de aproape ca de atunci n-a mai crescut DELOC, ba chiar a regresat si mai e si injury prone.

    si mai sunt multe exemple din astea. in general vezi cam ce poate un jucator pina prin anul 3-4. exceptiile sunt atunci cind nu primeste minute (gen JO care a jucat f putin in primii ani la blazers, sau gerald wallace la kings, sau redd, sau turkoglu) si/sau cind e un jucator inca f raw dar atletic (din nou, gerald wallace). pe astia atletici la inceput ii ajuta faptul ca-s atit de atletici, dar, daca lucreaza, in timp pot evolua rapid pt ca ajungi mult mai repede de la very raw la bunicel decit de la bunicel la elita (DACA ajungi la elita).

    de aia zic ca howard are inca potential enorm - daca inscrie 20ppg la cit de raw e, daca baga un baby hook si inca 2-3 miscari, poate ajunge spre 30ppg. si tot de aia zic ca tyrus are potential. raw, young, athletic si pina acum n-a jucat prea multe minute.

    pe de alta parte, cei care au fost 3-4 ani in colegiu deja si-au cam atins ceiling-ul. vezi hinrich care practic de cind a venit in liga n-a evoluat mai deloc. stats sunt flat.


    soooo, yeah.
    harris can be traded cit timp alti GM cred ca are inca potential mai mult decit ce se vede.
    altii despre care nu cred ca vor mai creste prea mult:
    - lamarcus
    - david lee
    - gay
    - bosh: gata, am cam vazut ce poate face - nu poate cara singur o echipa in playoffs, asa ca desi e bagat cu lebron si wade in FA-class of 2010, nu e la nivelul loc. pt el ar fi excelent daca ar ajunge sa joace cu unul din ei 2, pt ca i-ar maximiza talentul si abilitatile.
    - josh smith: probabil ca ar mai putea creste daca ar lucra MULT la jumper, dar pina acum se pare ca se multumeste doar sa "lucreze" la el in meci)
    - granger: IIRC, per minute a avut cam aceleasi stats ca anu trecut. nu cred ca va mai face vreun "salt" valoric

    nu inseamna ca toti astia trebuie traded. doar ca atunci cind planuiesti pt viitor nu ar trebui sa te astepti ca valoarea lor sa creasca prea mult, chiar daca mai au ceva pina intra in their prime.
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    Houston's Yao Ming has called a possible move to Cleveland an "unknown," but did nothing to dampen ongoing speculation that the Cavaliers' new Chinese part owners want to sign him.

    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/06/19/y....ap/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLAM online
    This deal, as reported, will not happen. Not only is Al Jefferson arguably the more valuable player (considering he rebounds, defends and is much healthier and younger), the No. 6 pick in the upcoming draft is also included. Stoudemire, with one year left on his contract, could leave any team after this season. The Wolves would be giving away two of its major building blocks for essentially a goggled, one-year rental.

    But some with a little less sense (and others with early onset offseason boredom) began to take this news to another level. Thankfully KTAR’s John Gambadoro set the record straight right away. In so many words, Gambo plainly states what should’ve been said from the outset: The trade has no legs.
    "The truth is that there have been NO discussions between the teams about this trade. It is a total BS made up rumor with no legs.
    [...]
    So before this trade rumor starts to take off let’s do a reality check — it is not going to happen. It has not been discussed. And it is 100 percent completely made up."
    Don’t you just love the offseason!
    Case closed.
    "Brian Scalabrine looks like Will Ferrell in Semi-Pro" (Jeff Van Gundy)
    [I][SIZE="1"]Smith asks Chauncey why he only shot six times, and Chauncey tells him, "I read the game. I don't play for stats. I don't play for none of that no more. I play for the win." Smith's reaction: "Damn. Makes sense."[/SIZE][/I]

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    ok then, alt rumor la rand...am auzit ca mj se va intoarce din retirement si va semna un contract pe un an cu bobcats
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    ))) i'll believe that when i see it (iau la misto orice zvon de acest gen, pt ca inima mea nu isi permite sa isi faca sperante )

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    why you be sayin' stuff like that man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAK View Post
    ok then, alt rumor la rand...am auzit ca mj se va intoarce din retirement si va semna un contract pe un an cu bobcats
    That is just....not happening
    "Brian Scalabrine looks like Will Ferrell in Semi-Pro" (Jeff Van Gundy)
    [I][SIZE="1"]Smith asks Chauncey why he only shot six times, and Chauncey tells him, "I read the game. I don't play for stats. I don't play for none of that no more. I play for the win." Smith's reaction: "Damn. Makes sense."[/SIZE][/I]

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    reactia mea cand am citit zvonul lui BAK:
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    nu am vrut sa iti dau false hope..... am glumit numai pentru ca eu cred ca este destul de comic cum se tot vehiculeaza tot felul de tradeuri....
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    The Celtics reportedly offered Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen to the Pistons for Rodney Stuckey, Richard Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince.

    League sources told Yahoo! Sports of the deal, which reportedly never made it past lower level executives as Detroit rejected the offer immediately.

    The offer was made this past weekend.

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    i call bullshit on that one.
    dintre toti aia rondo e cel mai bun PG, allen e cel mai clutch si cel mai bun 3p scorer, iar boston il au deja pe pierce la SF, deci n-ar avea ce sa faca cu prince. poate detroit sa fi facut oferta ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    poate detroit sa fi facut oferta ...
    lol

    Allen are 34 de ani. Singurul lucru bun e ca expira in 2011 cand cred ca putine echipe vor mai avea cap space dupa 2010.

    Rondo o sa fie si el FA in curand, deci are un trade value mai mic.

    Iar Stuck/Rip/Pierce/Garnett/Perk cu Prince pe post de Posey arata foarte bine
    Last edited by Zabriskie; 23rd June 2009 at 18:20.

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    Caseta vb prostii pt ca e Detroit-hater.Rondo e f. bun insa Stuckey are potential sa fie mai bun decat el.Allen are o groaza de ani si e mai slab la orice capitol decat Rip(exceptie 3pt shoot), iar Prince e genul de jucator pe care absolut orice echipa si l-ar dori(chair daca il au deja pe Pierce).Bine, acuma daca te iei dupa caseta, Rondo e mai bun decat Dirk deci nah...
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    contractul lui allen expira in 2010.

    clar boston castigau din trade.

    allen are deja 34 asa cum ai spus, rip e mai tanar, deci si pe postul asta ar fi un plus pentru ei

    rondo e bun, dar are probleme comportamentele din cate se pare.

    prince ar fi in rolul lui posey, cam ce le-a lipsit in playoffs.

    si cine crede ca echipa=primii 5...e cel putin dumb.
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    The Bucks agreed to trade Richard Jefferson to the Spurs for Bruce Bowen, Kurt Thomas and Fabricio Oberto, according to a source
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