iverson redivivus ...

[KingMJames]

Damn... ar trebui sa existe laxative anti-ignore

dammit...dupa toata discutia asta despre laxative,nevoi care sa te treaca si maggots pot spune ca am o pofta de mancare fara precedent...

[just_me]

singura problema e ca in momentul in care ignori > 50% din participantzii la forum, practic devii tu cel ignorat ...

Faptul ca iverson "thrives" in open court e la mintea cocoshului, atuul lui principal e viteza, si situatzia ideala e atunci cind apararea adversa nu e "ashezata", in half-court, cind totzi aparatorii sunt "in pozitzie", e mult mai greu sa penetrezi. Iverson e foarte bun shooter, dar nu de la 3pt. De la semi-distantza si long-shots e "money" cum se zice.

Problema principala insa e ca toata valoarea lui iverson vine din faptul ca e rapid - si la 33 de ani viteza lui nu mai e ce a fost. Ginobili il depasheste pe AI in multe capitole in momentul asta, e mai bun aparator, arunca mai bine de la 3pt si e mult mai inteligent in joc (parerea mea subiectiva) - ia decizii mai bune, are capul pe umeri, shtie sa "enerveze" adversarul cu tot felul de mici magarii etc.

Evident ca ginobili nu ar fi dus pe cleveland in finala, dar e la fel de sigur ca nici iverson nu ar fi fost capabil. Ginobili insa a fost capabil sa duca Argentina la un titlu olimpic, in competiztie chiar cu o echipa condusa de iverson si compusa doar din anonimi (tim duncan, lebron james, booze, carmelo, marbury, wade, stoudemire etc) ...

bun argument..ce sa zic?!

[caseta]

Si acum toti stau cu sufletul la gura sa vada cui ii da caseta ignore ...

nu. doar tu.
restu s-au prins la cine ma refeream ....

[cgrecu]

@just_me
face parte din joc, ca si floppingul etc. e un skill ca oricare altul, nu la fel de spectaculos ca un slam-dunk, dar poate mai eficient. E o masura a inteligentzei in joc, de-aia jucatorii "europeni" sunt mai adeptzi la chestia asta.

[just_me]

nu e un skill, ci tine de caracter...daca esti magar, esti de la minibaschet pana la old-boys. flopping-u' se invata (vezi better basketball-better defense, asta ca tot se zice ca europenii au venit cu flopp-u' in nba)

[cgrecu]

ce legatura are caracterul cu baschetul? Totzi jucatorii simuleaza, unii in aparare, altzii in atac - si unii sunt mai buni decit altzii. Wade, iverson sau arenas s-au specializat in "flopping" ofensiv, ginobili, nocioni sau varejao sunt specialishti in cel defensiv ...

[cgrecu]

incet incet, manu ajunge sa fie apreciat la adevarata lui valoare, Hollinger intr-un articol de azi pe ESPN zice despre ginobili:

Like I said, it's still early. Really, really early. But just for kicks, let me throw a few questions out there, because we might need to start coming up with answers for them soon: Is it possible for a sixth man to be the MVP? If Ginobili pulls it off, don't we pretty much have to give him Most Improved too? And at what point should Alex English worry about his status as "best second-round draft pick ever" being in jeopardy?

While the media's agreement with the league sti****tes that nobody can talk about the Spurs until June, I'm going to break it today, because through seven games, Ginobili has been unbelievable. He leads the league in player efficiency rating by a wide margin while averaging 27.7 points, 7.0 rebounds and 6.4 assists per 40 minutes. Also, he's seemingly on his way to completing his evolution from slasher to shooter by hitting 42.9 percent of his 3s and taking nearly half his shots from the great beyond.

Especially notable is his recently developed knack for hitting step-back 3s off the dribble going to his left -- a shot that is more or less impossible but one he knocks down routinely. (Seriously, for all you rec league players, try this some time. If you're right-handed, try taking a hard dribble right, stepping back with your right foot, and then launching from distance. Half the time you'll miss the basket by 4 feet).

articol complet:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...2=stateChanged