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    Quote Originally Posted by Nan View Post
    Eu nici n-am spus ca sunt apropiati valoric nu m-ati inteles... ei au fost mai buni in meciul ala .. si din pacate pt americani asta nu e playoff ; se joaca un singur meci ... castiga cine e mai bun in meciul ala. Sunt convins ca daca treceau de grecia nu aveau probleme cu Spania , mai ales fara Gasol . Cum se joaca basket in cm asha se joaca in toata lumea inafara de america ; daca ei au alte reguli , ei trebuie sa-si schimbe jocul .
    Nu inteleg dc nu si-au luat mai multi shooteri ; se pare ca nu e de ajuns sa fii super atletic si sa sari 1 m , mai trebuie si basketball IQ .
    1. ai idee unde s-a inventat sportu asta ?

    2. tinind cont ca ei inca masoara in miles, yards, feet si inches, ca folosesc fahrenheit si nu celsius pt temperatura etc (chestii la care ar fi mai normal sa se adapteze la restul lumii) nu cred ca sunt sanse mari ca americanii sa adopte regulile restului lumii.

    PS: nu mai zic ca europa si FIBA au fost cam in urma americanilor cu regulile. ex: 24 de sec, care in europa acum citiva ani erau 30 de sec. si in final s-au convins ca alea 30 de secunde erau prea multe si jocul stagna.

    americanii sunt asi la facut spectacol. au stiut sa faca din sportul asta un spectacol si in felul asta au atras public si prin urmare o gramada de bani. lor li se datoreaza in cea mai mare parte po****rizarea basketului pe glob.

    asa ca sa nu fim ciini riiosi cu coada pe sus si sa le recunoastem meritele. si sa recunoastem ca regulile lor fac jocul mai spectaculos. in special linia mai departata de 3p care ofera mai mult spatiu pt patrunderi, si defensive 3sec violation, care creaza culoare.

    mie personal nu imi place basketul european pt ca am vazut prea multe echipe din europa care timp de 22 de sec plimba mingea pe semicercu de 3p pt ca pe final de atac cel mai bun aruncator de 3p sa arunce de la 3p, evident, cu 1 sau 2 oameni pe el. no post-play, no penetration, no nothing. zici ca e handbal cu o minge ceva mai mare.
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    Cu aproximatzie cate meciuri d'astea ai vazut anu' asta ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by just_me View Post
    io zic ca postu' asta a fost doar asa ca sa zici si tu ceva...oricum ar fi fost e naspa sa arunci de 3 de la o distanta diferita decat la tine in tara
    la mondiale cosu de 3 era long j la americani, dar intr-un fel arunci 3 si in altu arunci de 3...daca ai jucat baschet intelegi despre ce vb, daca nu, well, nu prea ai cum.
    absolut corect. mai ales ca, cel putin la americani unde intr-adevar am auzit si eu antrenori comentind ca pustimea nu stie decit dunk si aruncare de 3p, aruncarea de 3p e in general catch and shoot, cu shooterul asteptind pe loc sa primeasca mingea, in timp ce aruncarile de la semi se fac cu omul venind de dupa un screen si prinzind mingea din miscare, uneori aruncarea e din intoarcere (turn around fade away).

    mecanica aruncarii e cu totul alta. si daca tyrus thomas a declarat ca se antreneaza si exerseaza Js. cica nu pleaca pina nu baga 700 in fiecare zi. arenas arunca sute de aruncari de 3p in fiecare zi. probabil chiar peste 1000 in unele zile.
    la atitea repetari, nu numai forma, dar, cred eu, si forta cu care tre sa arunci sunt imprimate in "muscle memory". si chiar daca ochii tai vad cosul mai aproape (in cazul unei aruncari de 3p pe reguli fiba), creierul ii spune muschiului ca e aruncare de 3p, asa ca se executa miscarea intrata in reflex, cu forta intrata in reflex. in cazul asta, si o diferenta de 30cm poate sa fie enorma.

    btw, tin minte ca am auzit mai demult o declaratie a lui ray allen care spunea ca nu se uita la cos cind arunca de 3p (poate partial si din cauza ca defenderul puts a hand in his face). poate ca s-a obisnuit sa arunce atit de mecanic incit nici nu trebuie sa se uite, pt ca deja instinctiv stie unde e cosul. insa cind reperele nu mai sunt aceleasi .... se duce dreq orientarea, aprecierea distantei etc ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loved View Post
    Cu aproximatzie cate meciuri d'astea ai vazut anu' asta ?
    daca e sa o dam in diverse si sa ne masuram oole sa vedem care cite meciuri a vazut, pot sa te asigur ca am vazut mult mai multe meciuri de nba decit majoritatea. iar daca e vorba de an as in in ultimele 365 de zile, as putea sa adaug ca i-am vazut live pe maccabi tel-aviv si pe cska moscova din euroliga si pe suns si sixers.
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    pentru numaratori si masuratori de OO itzi recomand pe Adrian Nastase. Daca tzi se pare "divers" sa spui si pe ce itzi bazezi afirmatziile, excusez-moi.
    ca sa revin la subiect, ma refeream la multe echipe din europa care timp de 22 de sec plimba mingea pe semicercu de 3p pt ca pe final de atac cel mai bun aruncator de 3p sa arunce de la 3p, evident, cu 1 sau 2 oameni pe el. no post-play, no penetration, no nothing. zici ca e handbal cu o minge ceva mai mare. nu la meciuri NBA. Deci cate sunt? Maccabi, CSKA si mai care?
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    Cu alte cuvinte, duse sunt vremurile cand imi cerea sa-i trag DVDuri cu meciuri^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    1. ai idee unde s-a inventat sportu asta ?

    2. tinind cont ca ei inca masoara in miles, yards, feet si inches, ca folosesc fahrenheit si nu celsius pt temperatura etc (chestii la care ar fi mai normal sa se adapteze la restul lumii) nu cred ca sunt sanse mari ca americanii sa adopte regulile restului lumii.

    PS: nu mai zic ca europa si FIBA au fost cam in urma americanilor cu regulile. ex: 24 de sec, care in europa acum citiva ani erau 30 de sec. si in final s-au convins ca alea 30 de secunde erau prea multe si jocul stagna.

    americanii sunt asi la facut spectacol. au stiut sa faca din sportul asta un spectacol si in felul asta au atras public si prin urmare o gramada de bani. lor li se datoreaza in cea mai mare parte po****rizarea basketului pe glob.

    asa ca sa nu fim ciini riiosi cu coada pe sus si sa le recunoastem meritele. si sa recunoastem ca regulile lor fac jocul mai spectaculos. in special linia mai departata de 3p care ofera mai mult spatiu pt patrunderi, si defensive 3sec violation, care creaza culoare.

    mie personal nu imi place basketul european pt ca am vazut prea multe echipe din europa care timp de 22 de sec plimba mingea pe semicercu de 3p pt ca pe final de atac cel mai bun aruncator de 3p sa arunce de la 3p, evident, cu 1 sau 2 oameni pe el. no post-play, no penetration, no nothing. zici ca e handbal cu o minge ceva mai mare.
    1. Si ce conteaza unde s-a inventat sportul ?? Daca e sa o luam asha , hockey-ul a fost inventat in egipt , si dupa aia de-abia in canada . Acum toti din cm de hockey trebuie sa joace dupa regulile din egipt ?? Americanii au reguli diferite in aproape orice sport de la ei , si la soccer au un fel de draft .
    2. Eu nici nu am spus ca regulile americanilor nu sunt mai bune... sunt chiar muult mai bune dupa parerea mea . Doar ca regulile astea
    sunt numai la ei ; asha ca dc sa se adapteze toata lumea la regulile lor cand pot ei sa se adapteze la regulile celorlalti ? Oricum sunt mult peste ceilalti jucatori .
    Si america nici nu are cele mai multe medalii de aur din istorie la baschet , deci degeaba au prins ei un meci prost cu grecia .. ca au cam tot prins meciuri proaste . fosta Iugoslavia ( care are cele mai multe medalii de aur ) era plina de jucatori din nba , dar ei isi dadeau seama ca basketul nu se castiga prin patrunderi si dunkuri . In europa se tine cont mai mult si de creierul unu jucator , in america mai mult de gambe
    Oricum sa nu intelegi ca eu zic ca europenii sunt mai buni ; americanii n-au adversari in lume , dar deocamdata doar 1on1 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nan View Post
    1. Si ce conteaza unde s-a inventat sportul ?? Daca e sa o luam asha , hockey-ul a fost inventat in egipt , si dupa aia de-abia in canada . Acum toti din cm de hockey trebuie sa joace dupa regulile din egipt ?? Americanii au reguli diferite in aproape orice sport de la ei , si la soccer au un fel de draft .
    2. Eu nici nu am spus ca regulile americanilor nu sunt mai bune... sunt chiar muult mai bune dupa parerea mea . Doar ca regulile astea
    sunt numai la ei ; asha ca dc sa se adapteze toata lumea la regulile lor cand pot ei sa se adapteze la regulile celorlalti ?
    daca la tine in sat ejti singuru cu masina, si toti restu merg cu carute, o sa renunti la masina ca sa iti iei caruta ?!!?!
    no offense, da ce ai spus e o aberatie. daca ai ceva mai bun si restu lumii sunt inapoiati, atunci incerci sa ii inveti si pe ei, nu renunti tu doar ca sa mergi cu turma. dar banuiesc ca depinde de cit spirit de turma are fiecare ....

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    Si america nici nu are cele mai multe medalii de aur din istorie la baschet , deci degeaba au prins ei un meci prost cu grecia .. ca au cam tot prins meciuri proaste .
    daca vorbim de istorie, si nu STRICT de campionatul mondial, te-as contrazice. dar doar daca imi permiti. asta pt ca istoria include si olimpiada, unde se joaca dupa fix aceleasi reguli ca la fiba world cup.

    din 15 participari la olimpiada ale americanilor, au 12 medalii de aur, 1 silver si 2 bronze.
    http://www.usabasketball.com/inside....y_content&id=5

    daca tinem cont si de Fiba World Cup unde in general americanii au avut o prestatie mai proasta (la ei Fiba World Cup nu prea are valoare, spre deosebire de olimpiada, care chiar conteaza):
    USA au luat aurul de 3 ori din 15 participari.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_World_Championship
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketb...ummer_Olympics

    total medalii aur:
    USA: 15
    Yugoslavia (Serbia): 6
    Russia (Uniunea Sovietica): 5
    Brazilia: 2
    Argentina: 2
    Spania: 1

    asa ca mai documenteaza-te. la numar de medalii de aur americanii sunt de departe cei mai buni din istorie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    daca la tine in sat ejti singuru cu masina, si toti restu merg cu carute, o sa renunti la masina ca sa iti iei caruta ?!!?!
    no offense, da ce ai spus e o aberatie. daca ai ceva mai bun si restu lumii sunt inapoiati, atunci incerci sa ii inveti si pe ei, nu renunti tu doar ca sa mergi cu turma. dar banuiesc ca depinde de cit spirit de turma are fiecare ....



    daca vorbim de istorie, si nu STRICT de campionatul mondial, te-as contrazice. dar doar daca imi permiti. asta pt ca istoria include si olimpiada, unde se joaca dupa fix aceleasi reguli ca la fiba world cup.

    din 15 participari la olimpiada ale americanilor, au 12 medalii de aur, 1 silver si 2 bronze.
    http://www.usabasketball.com/inside....y_content&id=5

    daca tinem cont si de Fiba World Cup unde in general americanii au avut o prestatie mai proasta (la ei Fiba World Cup nu prea are valoare, spre deosebire de olimpiada, care chiar conteaza):
    USA au luat aurul de 3 ori din 15 participari.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_World_Championship
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketb...ummer_Olympics

    total medalii aur:
    USA: 15
    Yugoslavia (Serbia): 6
    Russia (Uniunea Sovietica): 5
    Brazilia: 2
    Argentina: 2
    Spania: 1

    asa ca mai documenteaza-te. la numar de medalii de aur americanii sunt de departe cei mai buni din istorie.
    eu spuneam ca sunt mai bune regulile dupa parerea mea ... nu a celor de la fiba ; daca si ei le-ar considera mult mai bune dc sa nu le schimbe , ai dreptate ; dar pana sa se convinga , mi se pare normal sa se joace la cm si olimpiada cu regulile din fiba .
    la faza cu medaliile ai dreptate , eu ma refeream doar la cm ... my bad

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    parerea mea e ca fiba astia sunt cu coada pe sus. nu vor sa adopte regulile americanilor chiar daca sunt mai bune ca sa isi dovedeasca ei "independenta" sau ceva de genu asta. sa arate ca nu ii invata aia din nba pe ei ce sa faca .... pe scurt, dintr-un orgoliu prostesc.

    nu zic sa faca nba regulile si pt fiba, ca e o liga privata. dar daca regulile lor sunt bune, fiba sa le adopte mai repede.
    mai ales ca astia din nba schimba regulile de la an la an pt a face jocul mai spectaculos, si asta e si interesul fiba. nba-ul testeaza regulile in D-league, uneori chiar in nba (ca atunci cind pt 1 an au mutat linia de 3p mai aproape) si in functie de rezultate pastreaza unele reguli si renunta la altele. ei fac practic o gramada de R&D. fiba ar putea doar sa culeaga roadele, ca sa zic asa, adica sa ia ce se dovedeste mai bun, dupa ce deja nba-ul au facut testele pe pielea lor.

    si ar avea cu atit mai mult sens cu cit cei mai buni jucatori ai echipelor de la olimpiada si CM (cu mici exceptii) joaca in nba.
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    Pai si acuma in NBDL se joaca cu vechea noua-minge (aia din material compozit)... care a fost folosita in NBA pana s-a decis reintoarcerea la noua veche minge... adica aia de piele.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    daca la tine in sat ejti singuru cu masina, si toti restu merg cu carute, o sa renunti la masina ca sa iti iei caruta ?!!?!
    daca facetzi curse si te'ntrece carutza, da.


    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    la ei Fiba World Cup nu prea are valoare, spre deosebire de olimpiada, care chiar conteaza
    daca ai aplica criteriu' asta cu 'cat de mult ishi doresc' in toate competitziile din toate sporturile din lume, itzi dai seama cam cate ierarhii s'ar da peste cap? i'am da MVP-urile lu' Carter, ca de putut poate, da' n'are chef/minte.

    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    cei mai buni jucatori ai echipelor de la olimpiada si CM (cu mici exceptii) joaca in nba.
    a comparat bine grecu (parcA) Realu' cu NBA, si e valabil si aici. Daca totzi fotbalistii buni se duc la Real, Chelsea, samd (pentru bani, prestigiu si ce-o mai fi) inseamna ca automat Realu' e cea mai buna din lume?
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    dupa cum spuneam mai devereme, belinelli o sa cam aiba probleme cu aparatorii din nba. ca astia din summer league nu prea sunt la acelasi nivel ....

    Belinelli, the talk of summer league thus far, had trouble getting his shot over over the taller and much more rangy Durant. He scored just 16 points, his low in Vegas, and went a miserable 0-of-9 on 3-pointers.
    iar in defensiva

    Once again Durant's jumper was off, after going just 9-of-36 in his first games, he only hit a couple jumpers Friday. He did not settle, though, and starting attacking Belinelli, who simply could not stay in front of him or handle his size. The Warriors often were left to just foul and Durant went 13-of-16 from the line.
    e adevarat ca

    He (Durant) also got freed up for several breakaway dunks off steals, once stripping Belinelli and another time stepping in front of him to intercept a pass. He, too, had trouble staying in front of the much quicker Belinelli and struggled all night long to get in position for rebounds. Those are things likely to be seen this winter and spring, too.
    in nba durant va fi SF, iar belinelli SG. asa ca e de asteptat ca belinelli sa nu aiba de aparat jucatori ca durant (mult mai inalti dar aproape la fel de rapizi) insa va fi aparat de jucatori carora viteza lui nu le va pune prea multe probleme. adica va avea viata ceva mai usoara in aparare, dar probabil mai grea in atac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loved View Post
    daca facetzi curse si te'ntrece carutza, da.
    daca arunci un ochi mai sus, o sa vezi ca masina a cistigat la fel de multe medalii cit cele mai bune 4 carute.
    so cut the crap, would you ?!?!
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    cand era noua (masina) si ailaltzi nu descoperisera inca roata. Acum s'a cam rablagit si proprietaru' pune mai mult accent pe abtzibilde, piele, cd player, schimbator de aur, demaraj decat pe fiabilitate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    daca la tine in sat ejti singuru cu masina, si toti restu merg cu carute, o sa renunti la masina ca sa iti iei caruta ?!!?!
    no offense, da ce ai spus e o aberatie. daca ai ceva mai bun si restu lumii sunt inapoiati, atunci incerci sa ii inveti si pe ei, nu renunti tu doar ca sa mergi cu turma. dar banuiesc ca depinde de cit spirit de turma are fiecare ....


    de ce sunt mai bune regulile americanilor? ca nu ma prind

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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    dupa cum spuneam mai devereme, belinelli o sa cam aiba probleme cu aparatorii din nba. ca astia din summer league nu prea sunt la acelasi nivel ....



    iar in defensiva



    e adevarat ca



    in nba durant va fi SF, iar belinelli SG. asa ca e de asteptat ca belinelli sa nu aiba de aparat jucatori ca durant (mult mai inalti dar aproape la fel de rapizi) insa va fi aparat de jucatori carora viteza lui nu le va pune prea multe probleme. adica va avea viata ceva mai usoara in aparare, dar probabil mai grea in atac.

    Daca tot dam quote sa amintim si:

    My favorite import: Marco Belinelli

    It's simply impossible not to pick the Italian. He's become such an instant favorite with the Vegas crowds -- averaging 25.0 points through three games and generally commanding Best Player So Far status from coaches and personnel types in attendance -- that most of his misses from outside are met with a disappointed groan from fans.

    Ever since that 14-for-20 shooting spree in Belinelli's 37-point opener, the locals apparently think that Golden State's No. 18 pick is supposed to make every shot.

    "But he's not just a shooter," said one Western Conference executive. "Don't be mistaken. He had [Philadelphia's Rodney] Carney isolated at the top of the key, beat him with a super crossover and finished at the rim over two people. He's going to fit right into the way Golden State plays. And he's not as bad defensively as people thought. Philly tried to iso him a few times in that game and he did a decent job."

    Marc Stein e bun?

    Eu zic sa astepam sa vedem cateva meciuri (cel putin) in NBA si sa ne dam cu parerea. Nu de alta dar sunt cativa pe aici care nici macar nu l-au vazut pe Belinelli jucand in Euroliga la CM sau in campionatul italian, dar cunosc ce stie si cum stie italianul.
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    uite ca a facut belinelli contra lui durant, si durant nu e vreun bruce bowen:

    Perhaps it was not a natural matchup and one likely not to be seen during the regular season, but Belinelli and Durant spent the entire night guarding each other to the delight of onlookers. Each athletic move was embraced by the fans and each fundamental maneuver from pick-and-roll coverage to defensive angles were eyed by dozens of NBA scouts, coaches and executives in the Thomas & Mack Center.

    Belinelli, the talk of summer league thus far, had trouble getting his shot over over the taller and much more rangy Durant. He scored just 16 points, his low in Vegas, and went a miserable 0-of-9 on 3-pointers.

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    WINNERS

    1. Marco Belinelli, Golden State Warriors – Belinelli can really shoot and will fit in nicely at Golden State. He had some big games, including a 37-point effort, and he shot over 44 percent from three-point range. He also proved he can take it to the hole in averaging 22.8 points per game. He looks like he'll be ready to contribute immediately for the Warriors.

    2. Jason Maxiell, Detroit Pistons – Maxiell came to Vegas in great shape and played great. He looked comfortable both with his back to the basket and stepping out to shoot jumpers, averaging 15 points and five rebounds while shooting over 54 percent. Detroit's young players should help the team's depth and chances to win the East next season.

    3. Javaris Crittenton, Los Angeles Lakers – Crittenton might have the biggest upside out of all the point guards at summer league mostly due to his size (6-foot-5) and athleticism. He showed the ability to get into the lane and finish near the basket. Crittenton averaged 17 points and three assists and, for the most part, outplayed Jordan Farmar.

    4. LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland Trail Blazers – Aldridge played extremely well in his two games, averaging 21 points and 11 rebounds. He hit turnaround baseline jumpers and showed good range with his shot. He looked comfortable on offense and certainly will improve on his rookie season. He and Greg Oden should give Portland a solid one-two punch inside.

    5. Al Thornton, Los Angeles Clippers – Thornton is extremely athletic but often plays out of control. His shot selection needs drastic improvement, but he plays very hard and goes to the glass on every possession. The 2007 No. 14 pick will definitely contribute next season for the Clippers, but he needs to shoot better than the 37.7 percent he shot in summer league. Thornton averaged 17.6 points and 6.2 rebounds.

    6. Rodney Stuckey, Detroit Pistons – Stuckey was terrific and should really help the Pistons as a rookie. He is very strong, enabling him to either post up or drive, and he has a good feel for the game. He's also very unselfish. Stuckey averaged a team-best 19 points a game, but his numbers this season will not be great because he'll play behind Richard Hamilton and Chauncey Billups. Still, down the road, he should end up being one of the top five players in the 2007 draft.

    7. Louis Williams, Philadelphia 76ers – Williams is not a true point guard; he is a scorer. He averaged 25.2 points and produced several high-scoring games because his quickness makes him so difficult to guard. He gets into the lane and dishes to teammates (5 assists per game) and gets to the free-throw line (13.6 attempts a game), which makes him very efficient. He does, however, tend to pound the ball instead of finding open teammates, which is not ideal when you have Andre Iguodala running out in front.

    8. Craig Smith, Minnesota Timberwolves – Smith is big and strong, but more importantly, he is tough. He loves to bang inside and is a blue-collar player. Having raised his offensive game, Smith showed the ability to hit the open jump shot and averaged 21.8 points and 6 rebounds on 63-percent shooting. His improvement should help give Minnesota a chance to be a playoff team.

    9. Kevin Durant, Seattle SuperSonics – For a while, it seemed Durant would join Oden on the losers list. He did not shoot the ball well (33 percent from the field), nor rebound well (only averaged 2.0), nor pass the ball well (only two assists all week), but during his last game and a half, he was unbelievable.

    Durant scored from deep and in the post, and used his jab step and length to perfection. He averaged 24 points and showed with his size, length and skill why he has a chance to be one of the best ever. As he gets stronger, he will finish better and improve his field-goal percentage. Durant has more upside than any player in the 2007 draft.

    10. Aaron Brooks, Houston Rockets – Brooks is super quick and although he is more of a scoring guard than a point guard, he averaged 5.2 assists a game. Brooks also made 42 percent of his three-pointers. Add his speed with that range and it is easy to see why he averaged 21.4 points a game. Brooks should help the Rockets by taking some of the scoring burden off Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady.

    11. Randy Foye, Minnesota Timberwolves – Foye's jumper looked fluid and he played with a lot of confidence. A scoring guard in the mold of Gilbert Arenas, Foye averaged 18.4 points a game and shot the ball extremely well from behind the arc (54 percent). He should be a star in the near future.

    12. Mike Conley Jr., Memphis Grizzlies – Conley did not have a great summer league but he was definitely solid. His numbers demonstrate his sturdiness: 11.4 points and 5.2 assists in about 27 minutes a game. He ran the offense well and got the ball to the open man. Conley will make everyone around him better and will help improve the Grizzlies next season.

    13. Von Wafer, Denver Nuggets – Wafer finished with a league record-tying 42 points and a 24.2-point average. He shot the ball well throughout summer league, and proved that he can hit consistently from beyond the arc (hitting at a 44-percent clip). Wafer will be in the NBA next year, especially in light of his ability to extend the defense with his shooting.

    LOSERS

    1. Greg Oden, Portland Trail Blazers – Oden's biggest problem is that he could not live up to the hype. He was supposed to be one of the top players in Vegas, but he was only the third best player on his team (behind Aldridge and Martell Webster). Oden only played two games and had as many fouls as points (19). Even though he struggled offensively and with turnovers, there is no denying his potential. By the end of the regular season, he will be a force.

    2. Yi Jianlian, Milwaukee Bucks – Besides a few stretches here and there, Yi struggled. He had difficulty being guarded by athletic players, and that was evident by his 26-percent shooting from the floor. Yi did average 12.4 points, but was hardly impressive. He also averaged 4.6 turnovers, which was a weakness in his game coming into the draft. Yi does have a great deal of talent, as he has a good-looking jump shot and he is athletic. Hopefully for the Bucks' sake, he fulfills his potential.

    3. Patrick O'Bryant, Golden State Warriors – O'Bryant had a disappointing summer league and it looks like he will never pan out in Golden State. The ninth overall pick in the 2006 draft is lethargic and seems to not enjoy playing. He averaged almost as many fouls (four) as points (5.6). O'Bryant has a lot of work to do before he ever sees the court for the Warriors, especially considering their run-and-gun system.

    4. Julian Wright, New Orleans Hornets – Wright never had a breakout game like several of the players from the 2007 draft. The 13th pick was very passive and only got to the free-throw line 11 times in five games. He averaged 8.6 points and shot a pedestrian 39 percent. Wright did not really do anything to distinguish himself and needs to improve his overall game.

    5. Corey Brewer, Minnesota Timberwolves – Brewer struggled shooting, making just 28 percent of his field-goal attempts. He is a good, all-around player but disappointed in Vegas.
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    and, as we all know, summer league determines the outcome of the regular season and the playoffs seeding ....

    i'm just sayin' ...
    Now this, my friend, is gonna be fun

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    hai sa ne intalnim pe forum numai in playoffs atunci, sau din 3 in 3 ani ca numai repeaturile si 3peaturile sunt shmechere, un titlu din cand in cand cashtiga oricine ...
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