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    Quote Originally Posted by Irimus View Post
    ba vb serios..un pf/c cu star potential are valoare mai mare decat un flashy pg care nu prea se apara(nu ca nu ar vrea, dar cred ca are vreo 60 de kg atata e de slab) si care arunca in mod constant 3 of 15, 4 of 18, 1 of 9
    aici sunt de acord cu tine. PG mici si slabi, flashy dar care nu se apara si care au % mizerabile la FG sunt overrated. tre sa fii probabil batut in cap sa overrate asa un jucator, cind e clar ca nu poti lua titlul cu el ca main man, dar na, unii oameni se pare ca nu vad ceea ce e evident ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    aici sunt de acord cu tine. PG mici si slabi, flashy dar care nu se apara si care au % mizerabile la FG sunt overrated. tre sa fii probabil batut in cap sa overrate asa un jucator, cind e clar ca nu poti lua titlul cu el ca main man, dar na, unii oameni se pare ca nu vad ceea ce e evident ...
    haha. Jennings nu pleaca nicaieri si nimeni nu intentioneaza sa ia titlu cu el ca main man. jennings a fost main man o perioada deoarece era on fire si nu era nimeni altcineva mai bun decat el in echipa (la ofensiva ma refer).
    apoi a venit Salmons si e alta poveste.
    vezi tu, Hammond incearca sa faca o echipa ca la Pistons, fara un main man clar

    si asa va luati de el de parca ar fi de 5 ani in liha. a fost rookie si avea 19-20 de ani ce vreti, sa-si duca echipa in finala?
    a jucat defense din ce in ce mai bine, pune presiune pe pg-ul advers full-court si are timp sa devina mai bun.
    cat despre fg%, aia se rezolva.

    cred ca stiti ce reputatie are skiles, macar tu caseta. daca jennings nu a fost benched niciodata sezonul asta, there's gotta be smth special about him, and skiles sees that
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    se referea la iverson
    Phil Jackson (June 17th, 2009):"What was our model of this team? The Ring, the ring, that was the model. Its not just this band of gold, its the circle that's made a bond between all of these players, a great love for one another, its a great feeling."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe24 View Post
    se referea la iverson
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    cine ?

    anyways, uite aici un articol pt fanii kobe:
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...obe/index.html
    nu-s de acord cu el, dar inteleg de ce are parerea asta.

    si daca tot am ajuns la mccallum, un articol interesant despre gentry:
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...uns/index.html
    cu atit mai interesant cu cit mccallum stie despre ce vorbeste, ca a petrecut un sezon cu suns (in special cu antrenorii) cind a scris SSOL

    personal as zice ca gentry a facut o treaba mai bine decit d'antony: developing a bench. d'antoni mergea prea mult doar cu staterii si ii cam epuiza in sezon.
    pe de alta parte, d'antoni a prins 2 WCF si a avut si o circa de ghinion:
    - amare busit 1 an
    - amare si diaw suspendati
    - nash cu nasul spart de nu a putut sa joace
    - duncan bagind primul 3 din sezon
    etc
    plus sarver fiind a cheap bastard. daca nu vindea nu stiu cite picks ar fi putut avea o echipa si mai talentata.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseta View Post
    aici sunt de acord cu tine. PG mici si slabi, flashy dar care nu se apara si care au % mizerabile la FG sunt overrated. tre sa fii probabil batut in cap sa overrate asa un jucator, cind e clar ca nu poti lua titlul cu el ca main man, dar na, unii oameni se pare ca nu vad ceea ce e evident ...
    Gen Iverson?
    "I think right now we are not capable of finding a way to win, or we are unable to, or don't know how to, or something,'' Carter said.

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    ce tot aveti cu iverson mah ?
    iverson s-a retras si-si vede de ale lui.

    intre timp
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5283536

    wade nu numai ca e 99.999999% sigur ca ramine in miami, dar se ocupa personal de recrutarea altor FA.
    dintre toti FAs din vara asta, pe cine ai vrea cel mai mult ?
    eu l-as vrea pe cel care vrea sa se asigure personal ca echipa are cele mai mari sanse posibile de a cistiga.
    de multe ori jucatorii nu se baga in treburi din astea, oricum nu atit de clar si pe fata. e treaba GMs sa alerge dupa FAs.
    dar uite ca wade e putin diferit.

    adevarat ca ownership-ul lui heat trebuie sa-i fi cistigat increderea pt ca el sa faca asa ceva. dar banuiesc ca ajuta sa iei 1 titlu si apoi, cind echipa devine slaba, sa ai un target clar (vara lui 2010). adevarat ca lebron si bosh chiar daca ar vrea sa ramina la cavs/raptors n-ar putea sa faca asta pt ca echipele lor nu au cap space, but still.




    warning: what follows are just the ramblings of a mad man - cam ce-mi trece mie prin cap. diverse scenarii in care heat pot construi cit mai rapid o echipa contender. read at your own risk.

    si din ce zice wade acolo, imi da impresia ca lebron e cam 80% in NY, 15% la cavs. nu prea suna ca si cum ar fi avut mari sperante sa-l recruteze pt heat.

    daca e asa, banuiesc ca bosh va fi 50-50 intre NY si heat, si raptors vor avea decizia finala - ca fara ei no S&T si bosh pierde 27 mil, asa ca vor avea si ei un cuvint de spus.

    daca heat ii iau doar pe wade si bosh, atunci sincer as prefera sa nu dea restul de bani pe joe, boozer, amare. aia nu merita max.
    mai curind banii ramasi as incerca sa-i impart intre haslem, przybilla (portland trebuie sa dea un C acum ca-l au pe oden, si l-au semnat pe camby) si ray ray.
    ar ramine cu o gaura la SF, dar acolo ar putea fi suficient dorell wright (daca nu se mai accidenteaza) si/sau Q. alta varianta - sa-l ia pe travis outlaw de la portland o data cu przybilla intr-un trade mai mare in care sa scape de beasley.

    in felul asta in loc sa sparga tot cap space-ul pe 3 oameni, ar reusi sa aiba depth mult mai mult.
    wade (ar trebui sa joace PG, nu stiu cit i-ar conveni, dar cred ca ar face si asta pt o sansa la titlu), ray ray, outlaw, bosh, 'billa
    cu arroyo, cook, dorell/q, haslem pe banca.

    nu stiu cit le-ar ajunge cap space-ul, dar ma gindesc ca ar putea sa mai scape de ceva salarii.
    in primul rind ar trebui sa incerce sa-l impacheteze pe james jones cu beasley pt un expiring. who knows, poate ca pune cuban botul - n-ar fi primul trade prost facut de mavs, si dampier e expiring.

    daca nu, ar putea sa fie un pic creativi cu salariile. de ex lui haslem sa ii ofere un contract pe 6 ani pornind de la mai putin urmind ca in vara urmatoare el sa opt-out si sa-i ofere MLE partial sau complet, suficient cit sa acopere si banii pierduti anul asta. sunt destul de sigur ca haslem ar avea incredere in riles ca isi tine cuvintul. alta varianta sa-l faca pe unul player-coach. banuiesc ca ar putea sa-l plateasca ca player si sa-i dea ceva extra daca e coach. probabil tot haslem ar fi cel mai potrivit, pt ca e de mult la heat si poate fi credibil ca vrea sa urmeze o cariera in antrenorat. cred ca poti fi un pic creativ atita timp cit nimeni din cei implicati nu zice "da, fentam sistemul". chiar daca stern se prinde, putin probabil sa intervina.

    daca nu reusesc sa scape de james jones, ma gindesc ca ar putea plati pe careva sa li-l ia de pe cap. daca nu-l vrea nimeni nici la pachet cu beasley, heat pot arunca niste future 1st picks (ca vor fi late anyway) si cash. max 3 mil, da nu e rau. poate separat mai pot face inca un trade - sa cumpere de la echipa aia un 2nd round pick cu inca 3 mil, dindu-le practic 6 mil ca sa ii scape de jones.
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    Vezi că Travis e la Clippers acum.
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    Beasley mi se pare un jucator cu un potential enorm, pacat ca fumeaza mereu.
    "I think right now we are not capable of finding a way to win, or we are unable to, or don't know how to, or something,'' Carter said.

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    actually, cred ca 'billa va opt-out, ca parca are ETO, iar travis e UFA.
    la cite echipe au pastrat cap-space, o sa ramina bani pe piata, si, ca de obicei, GMs vor simti ca e de datoria lor sa cheltuiasca absolut tot. ca in firme in care diverse departamente la final de an cheltuiesc absolut tot ce le-a ramas in buget pt ca altfel risca sa le fie redus bugetul pe anul urmator.
    asa ca s-ar putea sa beneficieze si astia mai mici de faptul ca vor fi atitia big name FA.

    oricum, daca heat reusesc sa ii ia pe 'billa si outlaw cu 12 mil/an combinat, eu zic ca e o treaba buna. ideal ar fi cu 10 (vreo 7 pt 'billa si 3 pt outlaw), dar cum ziceam vor fi bani disponibili si GMs care ramin cu mina goala si cap space nefolosit (clippers, nets), asa ca vor creste si preturile role players.
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    I still think Beasley e fit pentru OKC. J.Green + 26th pick. Miami!
    Cat despre 'bila , e perfect fit la OKC dar cred ca Portland il vor tine in roster ! Oricum se asteapta multe mutari la Draft !
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    The Pacers are interested in (Ty) Lawson, according to a source.

    The Pacers are willing to give up their pick - No. 10 - in next week's draft to get player that will help them immediately.

    The Pacers wouldn't be searching for a point guard if they had taken Lawson instead of Tyler Hansbrough last year.

    Lawson, Jrue Holiday, Jeff Teague, Darren Collison and Eric Maynor were all still available when the Pacers picked at No. 13.

    Speaking of Collison, the Pacers have reached out to New Orleans about the former UCLA point guard.

    Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineSt...#ixzz0qvFdy1Nd
    Era de asteptat .Pacers o sa arate mai bine cu un PG bun !
    "The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

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    kerr demisiona...

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    Si acum BOMBA :

    There’s a big-time player in the LeBron Sweepstakes that few have considered: the Trail Blazers. That’s right. As Sam Smith writes, the Blazers “have the pieces every team that could lose a free agent wants in a sign-and-trade, namely centers.” While Portland’s market is miniscule in comparison to New York and Chicago and Miami, LeBron has made it clear that, if he doesn’t re-sign with the Cavs, he wants the money — the six-year max deal money – because who knows what the cap will be after the new collective bargaining agreement is set in 2011.

    And that’s where the Blazers come in. Think about it. They got the bigs (Greg Oden, Joel Przybilla and Marcus Camby), and they use one in a sign-and-trade while preserving the others at center. They got an All-Star forward in LaMarcus Aldridge and a stud guard in Brandon Roy. And then there’s Jerryd Bayless and Andre Miller as additional pieces, and veteran Juwan Howard.

    Plus, Portland has some of the most loyal fans, is home to one of the world’s most influential companies in Nike (LeBron’s primary sponsor) and an owner (Paul Allen) who’s one of the richest men in the world and won’t hesitate to spend, network and spend some more.

    So, in short, the Blazers can offer The King money and wins.

    Portland, welcome to the LeBron race.
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    obye, forget about sam smith.
    ala inventeaza trades mai rau decit bill simmons. si simmons macar zice ca o face de placere, asta iti da impresia ca ce scrie el e nu doar posibil, dar probabil.

    in plus sunt convins ca cavs ar sari in sus de bucurie la gindul ca ar putea sa faca un s&t care sa li-l aduca pe .... przybilla ?! yeap, 'billa for lebron sounds about right.
    right out of stupid sam's dream.

    ca sa nu mai zic ca nu are nici o importanta de unde a plecat nike - in mod sigur si ei il vor pe lebron in NY, unde ar avea vizibilitate maxima, nu in oregon. nike n-au nevoie de el sa vina la munca 9 to 5 la HQ-ul lor, au nevoie de el sa apara la tv si sa vinda incaltari. ca sa nu mai zic ca daca dupa mintea lui sam smith daca lebron ar vrea in oregon pt ca acolo e sediul nike, atunci de ce nu s-ar duce direct la sursa, sa joace in grecia (nike e zeita greaca a victoriei)


    nope.
    este intre NY, cavs si heat. si am impresia ca cavs are fading out quickly. nu au gasit un coach si se pare ca o sa le fie greu pt ca aia mai buni vor asigurari ca vine lebron, iar lebron o sa vrea un coach bun pt a semna. nu au scapat de mo si delonte. iar la anul nu vor mai avea frontcourt. shaq is gone, si ma indoiesc ca-l vrea careva. Z e batrin. mie-mi plac varejao + hickson ca titulari, dar mai trebuie ceva depth.
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    New York would be the baddest choice for LeBron ! I`dd say : Nets (soon to be Brooklyn , NY) (Harris , Favors?, Lopez) sau Bulls ( Rose si Noah - au si trade pieces , big city BUT ALSO the ghost of MJ) .
    Sincer pe mine nu ma incanta Wade + LeBron , eu gandesc clasic PG - SG/Winger(scorer) - Center + BENCH ! This WINS Championships!
    "The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

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    Quote Originally Posted by obye View Post
    New York would be the baddest choice for LeBron ! I`dd say : Nets (soon to be Brooklyn , NY) (Harris , Favors?, Lopez) sau Bulls ( Rose si Noah - au si trade pieces , big city BUT ALSO the ghost of MJ) .
    Sincer pe mine nu ma incanta Wade + LeBron , eu gandesc clasic PG - SG/Winger(scorer) - Center + BENCH ! This WINS Championships!
    lemme quote from urban dictionary

    Toughest, coolest. Always used complimentary, unless used by someone who has poor grammar and does not know that the superlative form of "bad" is "worst". Ironically, "baddest" and "worst" are complete opposites, despite the fact that at first glance, they appear to be synonyms.
    I'd (cu un singur "d") say we have a bingo !!!
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    Well ... you get my point !
    "The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

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    The Sixers have agreed to trade Samuel Dalembert to the Kings for Andres Nocioni and Spencer Hawes, according to a report from Chad Ford of ESPN.

    RealGM Note: Dalembert is entering the final season of his contract.

    Nocioni is owed $6.85M, $6.65M and $7.5M over the next three seasons.

    Hawes, a member of the 2007 NBA Draft class, will become a restricted free agent after the 10-11 season.

    Both Dalembert and Nocioni have frequently been mentioned in trade rumors, largely due to their bloated contracts.

    Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...#ixzz0r8oDxhDt
    bun trade pt kings, cam prost pt philla.
    sunt plini de SFs si pt o echipa care se bazeaza mult pe defense, Hawes nu e tocmai alegerea potrivita. nu are nici un joc ofensiv prea impresionant
    si contractul lui Noce e nasol. They must think highly of Hawes, altfel nu vad rostul trade-ului

    de fapt daca ma uit mai bine au salvat vreo 2 mil jumate cu trade-ul, destul sa-l drafteze pe Turner si sa fie under the luxury tax
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    Prost trade-ul pt phila dpdv financiar.Expiring-ul lui Sammy putea fii excelent la deadline cand mereu apar Gasoli/Stoudamaierii etc care vor sa plece..si pt a lua asa ceva e in primul rand nevoie de un expiring mare.

    Dpdv baschetbalistic e ok.Noce e un jucator decent iar Hawes e bunicel in ofensiva insa prezenta inside a lui Dalembert va fi f greu inlocuita.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe24 View Post
    se referea la iverson
    e hater caseta dar nu e prost.jennings nu se poate compara cu iverson decat la fizic si la freza...nu poti compara merele cu ananasul da-o incolo de treaba.desi ca evident, nici cu iverson ca the man nu se putea lua titlul.

    ps:nu ca jennings nu ar fi bun, sa nu sara maggot cu gura pe mine dar nu cred ca o sa ia mvp vreodata .sau cine stie
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